Hell and Bach – TSW Guides Investigation Walk-through

Full Write Up of the Quest:  Hell and Bach

In Savage Coast – The Secret World

Update 1.1 (TSW)


Hell and Bach is an investigation quest introducted in the 1.1 Patch for TSW, Carter Unleashed.  The quest is offered by Daniel Bach at the Overlook Hotel in Savage Coast.  The quest follows the history of Theodore Wicker.

Hell and Bach :  Step 1

“Examine Bach’s research.”
Hell and Bach :  Daniel Bach's Notes

“Latin, fuckin latin.  But I’ll tell you Theo you’re not the only one w/ a classical education.”

  1. Soho
  2. Brooklyn (Cora LV?)
  3. Maine
That’s the information Daniel Bach passes on as you begin the quest.

“Examine Room 13 for clues.”  Wicker’s journal is sitting at the edge of a bed.  Clicking it gives the option to “enter room 13.”  You flash back to a more stable version of Room 13.  Check out Wicker’s journal again.

The Latin term “Orderint Dum Metuant” Yahoo answers suggests that the phrase means “let them hate, so long as they fear.”

Reader Nina, comments below:

“Oderint, dum metuant” means “Let them hate, as long as they fear”.
(The game has “orderint” instead of “oderint”; this is either a bad pun or an error.)

Hell and Bach, Wicker's Journal

“Find a way to activate the séance circle.”  Roll away the carpet and you will see the summoning circle.

Need Help using the summoning circle?
Spoiler:

You have to type out ORDERINT DUM METUANT in demon glyph. Be careful, because the floor circle does NOT align with the diagram in the book.

Click on the image for a full screen solution

Hell and Bach, the Room 13 Solution

 

Hell and Bach :  Step 2

“Travel to the location in the top photograph.”

Need Help finding the location?
Spoiler:

Head to Agartha and Brooklyn.  Go into the sewers near the Illuminati headquarters and look for a sewer cover at 307, 347.  Quest updates to “Find a way to activate the sceance circle.”

Need Help solving the New York puzzle?

Spoiler:
There is a piece of equipment nearby with graffiti on it… in Latin!

Non Sum Qualis Eram, or “I am not what I was.”

Click on the image for a full screen solution

Hell and Bach, New York Solution


Hell and Bach :  Step 3

“Travel to the location in the third photograph.”

Need Help finding the location in the third photograph?
Spoiler:
Travel to London.  You are looking for a doorway to a basement apartment at 166, 205.

Entering updates the quest to “Find a way to activate the séance circle.

Need Help solving the London puzzle?
Spoiler:
Wicker has carved into the roof, “Orbis Non Sufficit,” which translates to The World is Not Enough.

Click on the image for a full screen solution

 

 


Hell and Bach :  Step 4

“Search the room for more information about Wicker’s past.”

  Need Help solving Wicker’s past?

Spoiler:
There is a journal on a nearby desk, check it out.  You have to use the cipher you decoded from the past clues to uncover the symbols.  The first pair of words is TABULA RASA, “or blank slate” which references the location to visit.  The second word is SEPTIMUS which means “the seventh”

Hell and Bach, known letters

Need Help Getting into Wicker’s room?
Spoiler:
At the tabula rasa, buy a room key for Septimus from the concierge.  Use the key on the cube and head up to Wicker’s room.  The quest updates to “listen to the cassette tape” following that “examine the briefcase.”  You see a picture of a Wicker lecture with symbols on it.  The symbols translate to Ad August per Angusta, which translates to “August through the strait (or narrow).”  

The quest updates to “Go to the location mentioned in the flyer.”

Need Help finding the location mentioned in the flyer?
Spoiler:
The flyer mentions going to the Occult Museum, which is to the SW of the Templar HQ at 296, 270.

Hell and Bach :  Step 6

“Find a way to view Theodore Wicker’s lost lecture.”  The museum is closed, but a scrawled note directs you to Wickers “private Youtube Channel” at -E11 ot Dewhurst.

Need Help deciphering the note?
Spoiler:
This turns out to be the name ELLIOT DEWHURST.  Checking for him and lecture on Youtube leads you to:

Interested in the Latin in this quest?

Nina comments:

I should think that all four quotes point to a person travelling a lonesome path, convinced to be (or to have become, as in “Non sum qualis eram”) singled out in one way or the other: privileged, powerful, but also isolated and deprived of happiness, having left the world of joy and love behind:

Oderint, dum metuant” (“Let them hate, as long as they fear”) is a fragment from a lost tragedy, said by Suetonius to have been often quoted by the Emperor Caligula, who was little loved by his people.

Orbis non sufficit” (“The world is not enough”) is attributed to Alexander the Great. (And made famous again in recent times by the Bond family.)

Non sum qualis eram” (“I am not the way I used to be”), in the two famous poems that have the line (Horace 4.1 and, quoting Horace, E. Dowson), refers to youth and love renounced or lost.

A person, I should add, also able and willing to transcend the limits of the secular world (“Orbis non sufficit”).

For Dowson’s poem, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRte7wTaxA


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6 Responses to Hell and Bach – TSW Guides Investigation Walk-through

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  2. Nina says:

    Thanks for your guide! May I correct you on your Latin, though:

    “Oderint, dum metuant” means “Let them hate, as long as they fear”.
    (The game has “orderint” instead of “oderint”; this is either a bad pun or an error.)

    “Ad augusta (not august) per angusta” means “To greatness through the straits”.

    • RyahlRyahl says:

      Nina,

      Thanks for the correction. I actually don’t know Latin, so we used tranlator software for this piece of the puzzle. Google translate had a horrid time with this phrase, but Yahoo translate got fairly close on the Room 13 puzzle.

      The last statement, Ad augusta per angusta is a riddle to me. The literal translation seems confusing. My hunch is that this is Wicker realizing that he can enter the Hell dimension (and achieve greatness) by travelling through the straits (all of the Hell dimensions are doorways).

      • Nina says:

        It’s an old proverb, meaning (on the literal plane) that to reach great heights you have to travel narrow paths. On a metaphorical plane: hard work, danger, or suffering of all sorts, quite in the line of the more familiar “Per aspera ad astra” (“Through hardship to the stars”). Perhaps the quest authors decided that Hell with a capital H and the stars do not go too well together :-)

        Your idea of the “angusta” referring to the doors as well works great, too – hadn’t thought of that!

        I should think that all four quotes point to a person travelling a lonesome path, convinced to be (or to have become, as in “Non sum qualis eram”) singled out in one way or the other: privileged, powerful, but also isolated and deprived of happiness, having left the world of joy and love behind:

        “Oderint, dum metuant” (“Let them hate, as long as they fear”) is a fragment from a lost tragedy, said by Suetonius to have been often quoted by the Emperor Caligula, who was little loved by his people.

        “Orbis non sufficit” (“The world is not enough”) is attributed to Alexander the Great. (And made famous again in recent times by the Bond family.)

        “Non sum qualis eram” (“I am not the way I used to be”), in the two famous poems that have the line (Horace 4.1 and, quoting Horace, E. Dowson), refers to youth and love renounced or lost.

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