Full Write Up of the Quest: Hell and Bach
In Savage Coast – The Secret World
Update 1.1 (TSW)
Hell and Bach : Step 1
“Latin, fuckin latin. But I’ll tell you Theo you’re not the only one w/ a classical education.”
- Soho
- Brooklyn (Cora LV?)
- Maine
“Examine Room 13 for clues.” Wicker’s journal is sitting at the edge of a bed. Clicking it gives the option to “enter room 13.” You flash back to a more stable version of Room 13. Check out Wicker’s journal again.
The Latin term “Orderint Dum Metuant” Yahoo answers suggests that the phrase means “let them hate, so long as they fear.”
Reader Nina, comments below:
“Oderint, dum metuant” means “Let them hate, as long as they fear”.
(The game has “orderint” instead of “oderint”; this is either a bad pun or an error.)
“Find a way to activate the séance circle.” Roll away the carpet and you will see the summoning circle.
Need Help using the summoning circle?
Hell and Bach : Step 2
“Travel to the location in the top photograph.”
Need Help finding the location?
Need Help solving the New York puzzle?
Hell and Bach : Step 3
“Travel to the location in the third photograph.”
Need Help finding the location in the third photograph?
Entering updates the quest to “Find a way to activate the séance circle.
Need Help solving the London puzzle?
Hell and Bach : Step 4
“Search the room for more information about Wicker’s past.”
Need Help solving Wicker’s past?
Need Help Getting into Wicker’s room?
The quest updates to “Go to the location mentioned in the flyer.”
Need Help finding the location mentioned in the flyer?
Hell and Bach : Step 6
“Find a way to view Theodore Wicker’s lost lecture.” The museum is closed, but a scrawled note directs you to Wickers “private Youtube Channel” at -E11 ot Dewhurst.
Need Help deciphering the note?
Interested in the Latin in this quest?
Nina comments:
I should think that all four quotes point to a person travelling a lonesome path, convinced to be (or to have become, as in “Non sum qualis eram”) singled out in one way or the other: privileged, powerful, but also isolated and deprived of happiness, having left the world of joy and love behind:
“Oderint, dum metuant” (“Let them hate, as long as they fear”) is a fragment from a lost tragedy, said by Suetonius to have been often quoted by the Emperor Caligula, who was little loved by his people.
“Orbis non sufficit” (“The world is not enough”) is attributed to Alexander the Great. (And made famous again in recent times by the Bond family.)
“Non sum qualis eram” (“I am not the way I used to be”), in the two famous poems that have the line (Horace 4.1 and, quoting Horace, E. Dowson), refers to youth and love renounced or lost.
A person, I should add, also able and willing to transcend the limits of the secular world (“Orbis non sufficit”).
For Dowson’s poem, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRte7wTaxA
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Thanks for your guide! May I correct you on your Latin, though:
“Oderint, dum metuant” means “Let them hate, as long as they fear”.
(The game has “orderint” instead of “oderint”; this is either a bad pun or an error.)
“Ad augusta (not august) per angusta” means “To greatness through the straits”.
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Nina,
Thanks for the correction. I actually don’t know Latin, so we used tranlator software for this piece of the puzzle. Google translate had a horrid time with this phrase, but Yahoo translate got fairly close on the Room 13 puzzle.
The last statement, Ad augusta per angusta is a riddle to me. The literal translation seems confusing. My hunch is that this is Wicker realizing that he can enter the Hell dimension (and achieve greatness) by travelling through the straits (all of the Hell dimensions are doorways).
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It’s an old proverb, meaning (on the literal plane) that to reach great heights you have to travel narrow paths. On a metaphorical plane: hard work, danger, or suffering of all sorts, quite in the line of the more familiar “Per aspera ad astra” (“Through hardship to the stars”). Perhaps the quest authors decided that Hell with a capital H and the stars do not go too well together
Your idea of the “angusta” referring to the doors as well works great, too – hadn’t thought of that!
I should think that all four quotes point to a person travelling a lonesome path, convinced to be (or to have become, as in “Non sum qualis eram”) singled out in one way or the other: privileged, powerful, but also isolated and deprived of happiness, having left the world of joy and love behind:
“Oderint, dum metuant” (“Let them hate, as long as they fear”) is a fragment from a lost tragedy, said by Suetonius to have been often quoted by the Emperor Caligula, who was little loved by his people.
“Orbis non sufficit” (“The world is not enough”) is attributed to Alexander the Great. (And made famous again in recent times by the Bond family.)
“Non sum qualis eram” (“I am not the way I used to be”), in the two famous poems that have the line (Horace 4.1 and, quoting Horace, E. Dowson), refers to youth and love renounced or lost.
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A person, I should add, also able and willing to transcend the limits of the secular world (“Orbis non sufficit”).
For Dowson’s poem, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRte7wTaxA
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Nina,
Wow, that’s a lot of detail. Thank you for putting that all together. Wicker is one of this game’s ,ost interesting NPC’s. It would seem, based on your work, that the game writers put a lot of thought into their quotes.
I will work your notes into the guide.
Ry
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